I hadn't heard from my friend Paul Jarvis in a while, so I sent him a message.
Today, Paul is the co-founder of Fathom Analytics, but previously he was mostly known as the author of Company of One and for his newsletter and courses focused on helping creatives build better businesses.
Paul, Jarrod Drysdale, and I met weekly from July 2014 until June 2020! We would jump on a call and update each other on our businesses, struggles, and life. They were both a big encouragement to me while Jon and I were starting Transistor:
Paul effectively quit the Internet in 2020. He deleted his Twitter and Instagram and removed all the articles from his website. Since then, he and I haven't been in touch as much. (It's funny how not seeing someone on Twitter affects how often you chat with them). But, according to Paul, there are advantages to not being on social media: "The longer I'm offline, the more trivial everything on Twitter seems."
Anyways, back to that text message, I sent this to Paul on July 18:
We decided to jump on a call and catch up.
And then we decided to record it.
It was an open and free-wheeling discussion. If you're curious about the realities of running an indie SaaS business, you'll dig it.
Here are some of the things that came up:
After we published the episode, Paul texted me: "Lots of folks have texted and emailed me about this ep :)" It's worth a listen.
If you do give it a listen, let me know what you think!