You listen to the interview on these podcast apps:

🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/how-to-break-through-limitations-bobby-seagull-on-council/id1587142091?i=1000553939281

🟢 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3S9Ff2kbNv9cL4OwyR9yqU?si=Cm4Ugr4uSHuRBa7t-YkfEw

⛅️ Overcast: https://overcast.fm/+zqQwn-toQ