@jasonfried @JordanGal @CasJam That's my point. Podcasts are "backgroundable."

McLuhan would categorize Clubhouse as "cold" media:

"Cool media are ‘low definition’ because they provide less sensory data and consequently demand more participation or ‘completion’ by the audience."

https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110810105107935